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mrspudtnikNo GPU Backend collab
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Hi, after a few weeks break I decided to try another scene last night, but collab disconnected after 6 hours. I didnt realise until 3 hours later but now unable to get a GPU assigned. Does anyone know if this is a tempory of if that account is now useless?

The obvious thing would be to start a new account however every time i try to create one now it asks for a verification phone number for some reason Confused
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(08-06-2019, 10:15 AM)mrspudtnik Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi, after a few weeks break I decided to try another scene last night, but collab disconnected after 6 hours. I didnt realise until 3 hours later but now unable to get a GPU assigned. Does anyone know if this is a tempory of if that account is now useless?

The obvious thing would be to start a new account however every time i try to create one now it asks for a verification phone number for some reason Confused


It's interesting that you got this after a few weeks break - I was hoping that my previously nerfed accounts would re-set as far as Google is concerned, and I would start getting T4s and stable use again after taking a few days off. 

The accounts I have that tend to get disconnected are accounts on which I had previously done stupid things - like spamming the sign-in button repeatedly to try for a T4 instead of a K80 (now I am absolutely delighted to get a K80!) Or re-connecting after a disconnect, which resets the 12 hour countdown, and then continuing to train on that same account -- which means i wound up spending over 12 hours total on it that day. Basically just not being cautious, and over-playing it. I wouldn't say those accounts are useless - I've gotten some long training sessions done on them. You might still be able to use your account effectively (just often not for the full 12 hours)

The new accounts I am using have so far remained stable. I use them sparingly, with lots of time off in between (at the very least - never twice in a 24 hour period) and I accept whatever GPU they first give me. But who knows? They could begin disconnecting or denying me a GPU on my very next visit

Yes - Google now requires a phone number in order to verify new accounts via a text message to that number. I seem to remember finding a work-around for that a while ago with a few searches.  But if there was a loophole, Google has probably closed it by now

Generally, it seems to be just a matter of Google trying to limit the use (or misuse / abuse) of their resources. It is clear from the Colab FAQs page that Google does not like heavy continuous GPU use on Colab: They are already on guard against bitcoin miners, and our training demands are right up there with the miners, if not even more extreme. I also strongly suspect that all the fakers joining Colab in recent weeks and months have probably set off some alarms at Google - we have probably added hundreds, if not thousands, of people wanting a GPU (and using them relentlessly)

(I wonder if this problem is only going to get worse when the academic year resumes in a few weeks, and all the university kids start logging into Colab again for their machine learning studies.)

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Good luck
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(08-06-2019, 08:34 PM)dougonnabone Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-06-2019, 10:15 AM)mrspudtnik Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Hi, after a few weeks break I decided to try another scene last night, but collab disconnected after 6 hours. I didnt realise until 3 hours later but now unable to get a GPU assigned. Does anyone know if this is a tempory of if that account is now useless?

The obvious thing would be to start a new account however every time i try to create one now it asks for a verification phone number for some reason Confused


It's interesting that you got this after a few weeks break - I was hoping that my previously nerfed accounts would re-set as far as Google is concerned, and I would start getting T4s and stable use again after taking a few days off. 

The accounts I have that tend to get disconnected are accounts on which I had previously done stupid things - like spamming the sign-in button repeatedly to try for a T4 instead of a K80 (now I am absolutely delighted to get a K80!) Or re-connecting after a disconnect, which resets the 12 hour countdown, and then continuing to train on that same account -- which means i wound up spending over 12 hours total on it that day. Basically just not being cautious, and over-playing it. I wouldn't say those accounts are useless - I've gotten some long training sessions done on them.  You might still be able to use your account effectively (just often not for the full 12 hours)

The new accounts I am using have so far remained stable. I use them sparingly, with lots of time off in between (at the very least - never twice in a 24 hour period) and I accept whatever GPU they first give me. But who knows? They could begin disconnecting or denying me a GPU on my very next visit

Yes - Google now requires a phone number in order to verify new accounts via a text message to that number. I seem to remember finding a work-around for that a while ago with a few searches.  But if there was a loophole, Google has probably closed it by now

Generally, it seems to be just a matter of Google trying to limit the use (or misuse / abuse) of their resources. It is clear from the Colab FAQs page that Google does not like heavy continuous GPU use on Colab: They are already on guard against bitcoin miners, and our training demands are right up there with the miners, if not even more extreme. I also strongly suspect that all the fakers joining Colab in recent weeks and months have probably set off some alarms at Google - we have probably added hundreds, if not thousands, of people wanting a GPU (and using them relentlessly)

(I wonder if this problem is only going to get worse when the academic year resumes in a few weeks, and all the university kids start logging into Colab again for their machine learning studies.)

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Good luck

What's also strange is that I never had this problem before, so it seems to be just a blanket refusal to assign a gpu. tried again this evening to connect after a 16 hour break and same result. 

Appreciate your response, it all does make sense really, guess ill have to tty amd find another way

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