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The Future of Deepfakes
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(08-09-2018, 09:16 PM)StrayNucleus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-07-2018, 06:12 PM)dpfks Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I will enable downloads in the near future. Here are some factors I must think about before enabling this feature:

1) Server costs/bandwidth - Unfortunately even in this day and age, this isn't free. Downloading will cost more bandwidth, and put more strain on the servers.
2) Leeching - people will join and download all the videos, what is the point of returning? Other sites literally rip the videos and make their own website. Mr Deepfakes has an archive of over 95% of all publicly available deepfakes and I also create my own and I do not want other sites just taking videos to reupload - this is also why I watermark my own videos.

Due to these issues, I have decided to keep downloads disabled currently. I do eventually want to enable downloads. I am very interested in what the deepfake producers think about this.

That is rather hypocritical. That's exactly what you did. Reposting others videos is the same thing you did. voat.co is the majority of your content.

Like I said before, I don't care about this as much because I feel like this is the internet and people just need to grow up.

But the people on voat are stubborn. You have to address or at least justify this.  Make an announcement on voat addressing everything.

(08-09-2018, 09:16 PM)StrayNucleus Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(08-07-2018, 06:12 PM)dpfks Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I will enable downloads in the near future. Here are some factors I must think about before enabling this feature:

1) Server costs/bandwidth - Unfortunately even in this day and age, this isn't free. Downloading will cost more bandwidth, and put more strain on the servers.
2) Leeching - people will join and download all the videos, what is the point of returning? Other sites literally rip the videos and make their own website. Mr Deepfakes has an archive of over 95% of all publicly available deepfakes and I also create my own and I do not want other sites just taking videos to reupload - this is also why I watermark my own videos.

Due to these issues, I have decided to keep downloads disabled currently. I do eventually want to enable downloads. I am very interested in what the deepfake producers think about this.

That is rather hypocritical. That's exactly what you did. Reposting others videos is the same thing you did. voat.co is the majority of your content.

Like I said before, I don't care about this as much because I feel like this is the internet and people just need to grow up.

But the people on voat are stubborn. You have to justify address or at least address  this.  Make an announcement on voat addressing everything.

I agree it's slightly hypocritical. But I know my intentions. I too create my own deepfakes. I also credit all creators where I can and I enabled donation buttons for creators. Other websites just post, no credit, no donation button, etc. Celebjihad even takes videos and tries to pass deepfakes off as REAL...

As for the voat community, they're a rough crowd. Maybe I'll make an announcement once I actually enable downloads.

EDIT: I tried to address some of the concerns on Voat in the thread I found where you guys were discussing MDFs. I honestly believe, I am the only one dedicated in building this into a sustainable community. Anton was too, we both put in a lot of time to our sites. I know this because I saw all the custom work he did, and I know all the work I've done.
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(08-10-2018, 12:02 AM)dpfks Wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I agree it's slightly hypocritical. But I know my intentions. I too create my own deepfakes. I also credit all creators where I can and I enabled donation buttons for creators. Other websites just post, no credit, no donation button, etc. Celebjihad even takes videos and tries to pass deepfakes off as REAL...

As for the voat community, they're a rough crowd. Maybe I'll make an announcement once I actually enable downloads.

EDIT: I tried to address some of the concerns on Voat in the thread I found where you guys were discussing MDFs. I honestly believe, I am the only one dedicated in building this into a sustainable community. Anton was too, we both put in a lot of time to our sites. I know this because I saw all the custom work he did, and I know all the work I've done.

I understand the desire to have a complete archive. I think it makes the site better. 

I think if people want credit, they should claim it. Publicly available pornography is going to get re-uploaded, people need to deal with it.

I mean these people our arguing over fake celebrity porn that was originally created from copyrighted material which we never given permission to use so, in my opinion, re-uploading content just how you have done it isn't any less moral than making the video itself. The main goal is to contribute and consume. That's what we all want. Compromise, don't be little kids.

You can't copyright and or claim the rights to pirated, defaming, and borderline illegal content and even threaten to sue over material which you don't even own the full rights to.

That's the golden rule.

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