Ways to improve the deep fake

[Leo2026]

Deepfakes impressive but some of the models but using other people's videos is not a good idea sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't have you thought about hiring actors or actresses so you can actually create the fantasy story itself would it be using cloning AI voice technique or having them dress up as the character if it's not possible but my sincerest apologies but you have a fantastic sight and not bad I just want to offer an idea to improve the quality of what you're doing if what if you're offended in any way my sincerest apology truly I'm just trying to help out thank you

 

[TMBDF]

Deepfakes impressive but some of the models but using other people's videos is not a good idea sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't have you thought about hiring actors or actresses so you can actually create the fantasy story itself would it be using cloning AI voice technique or having them dress up as the character if it's not possible but my sincerest apologies but you have a fantastic sight and not bad I just want to offer an idea to improve the quality of what you're doing if what if you're offended in any way my sincerest apology truly I'm just trying to help out thank you

No actress would wilingly agree to take part in a shoot that would end up being deepfaked, most people are against deepfakes, especially women in the industry, as much as we'd all want to be able to hire actresses with exact body types and face shapes and shoot scenes with faking in mind, it's not gonna happen, ever.

 

[Love99]

I disagree, TMBDF. Its just a matter of time before we can hardly escape actors who offer exactly this. Some might do it for (more) money, some will do it, because they have a good body but not a good face, which will be replaced anyway. Some will do it, because other people want them to. Some will do it, because they like the idea of becoming closer to their idol or they can sell themselves irl as "the famous standard model for actress xyz". Or because they like the feeling of being used. That is a common trait for bdsm folk.

Same with Stable Diffusion models. At some point there will be people who train models with their own images for all the above reasons. They will like it. Maybe law will prevent or delay some of this, but finally it will happen. AI is just born a moment ago and society is in transit. Give it a bit time. When its about humans being horny, everything weird will finally happen.

 

[TMBDF]

I disagree, TMBDF. Its just a matter of time before we can hardly escape actors who offer exactly this. Some might do it for (more) money, some will do it, because they have a good body but not a good face, which will be replaced anyway. Some will do it, because other people want them to. Some will do it, because they like the idea of becoming closer to their idol or they can sell themselves irl as "the famous standard model for actress xyz". Or because they like the feeling of being used. That is a common trait for bdsm folk.

Same with Stable Diffusion models. At some point there will be people who train models with their own images for all the above reasons. They will like it. Maybe law will prevent or delay some of this, but finally it will happen. AI is just born a moment ago and society is in transit. Give it a bit time. When its about humans being horny, everything weird will finally happen.

Well I guess the good body/ugly face could work, but here is the thing... pornstars are looking better and better these days, the studios know guys want tiny, petite, cute girls, there are still some really ugly ones in the biz, but less and less each year, and ugly girls do OF without showing their faces/in masks/using free/fast instagram/snapchat/tiktok like face filters, they may make good money but it might be hard to find some willing to go for this due to the fact deepfakes still take a lot of time to make and aren't cheap if you do want to make some living or at least extra cash from it, but this is an aspect of the business I've been thinking of exploring indeed. I mean I do already work with one porn company, but due to lack of time I can't focus on this 100% just yet.

The challenge is still quality of faces, right now I can make a fake character with SD and make a deepfake with that, but SD is SD, so face is never quite consitent, and deepfakes have limitations, trying to make a perfect fake and passing it off as real is hard and honestly not something I like to do, I like deepfakes and AI art when it's clearly labeled as such, sadly a lot of people often ask me to make deepfakes to pass something off as real, I simply can't do that, both from technical and moral standpoint (and I say this as someone who makes nsfw fakes, but I label them as fake and don't post them to twitter like some idiots do, that just brings unwanted attention to the site no one wants).

 

[Love99]

Well I guess the good body/ugly face could work, but here is the thing... pornstars are looking better and better these days, the studios know guys want tiny, petite, cute girls, there are still some really ugly ones in the biz, but less and less each year, and ugly girls do OF without showing their faces/in masks/using free/fast instagram/snapchat/tiktok like face filters, they may make good money but it might be hard to find some willing to go for this due to the fact deepfakes still take a lot of time to make and aren't cheap if you do want to make some living or at least extra cash from it, but this is an aspect of the business I've been thinking of exploring indeed. I mean I do already work with one porn company, but due to lack of time I can't focus on this 100% just yet.

The challenge is still quality of faces, right now I can make a fake character with SD and make a deepfake with that, but SD is SD, so face is never quite consitent, and deepfakes have limitations, trying to make a perfect fake and passing it off as real is hard and honestly not something I like to do, I like deepfakes and AI art when it's clearly labeled as such, sadly a lot of people often ask me to make deepfakes to pass something off as real, I simply can't do that, both from technical and moral standpoint (and I say this as someone who makes nsfw fakes, but I label them as fake and don't post them to twitter like some idiots do, that just brings unwanted attention to the site no one wants).

I see your points, but I was thinking about the future,

Deepfakes are hard to make NOW, but that will change. As I see it, there will be a time when producing porn will be pretty easy for everyone, even non-technerds. I can see it with SD now, a few prompts and porn comes. I use a faceswap and the porn is automatically my favourite face, 50% successrate. In the future those will be videos, and I guess we can choose the ingredients for that soup. Choose the cock, the boobs, the faces, the fetish, click "go" to produce a video that is better than the best real stuff of today.

Of course they are fake. They are not reel. THat is pretty important too and that will never go away. But I feel ai-generated porn as a fetish is already there and more and more people will explore this. AI Porn will change our societies in ways we can hardly imagine. Most people might want porn with real humans, but some will like artifical stuff more. Just imagine you could fill your favourite "model" with an AI "soul", that learns individually what you teach it. Millions will fall in love with that. And some people will like the idea to offer themselves to that. And regarding celebrities... I can hardly imagine that they can protect themselves from that. They will try. They will fail. Then they will learn to accept it. But maybe I am wrong. Let's talk about this again in ten years

Im an older guy, but I guess even I will live to see at least a part of that future. Let's see if that will be utopian or dystopian. I guess both.

 

[TMBDF]

I see your points, but I was thinking about the future,

Deepfakes are hard to make NOW, but that will change. As I see it, there will be a time when producing porn will be pretty easy for everyone, even non-technerds. I can see it with SD now, a few prompts and porn comes. I use a faceswap and the porn is automatically my favourite face, 50% successrate. In the future those will be videos, and I guess we can choose the ingredients for that soup. Choose the cock, the boobs, the faces, the fetish, click "go" to produce a video that is better than the best real stuff of today.

Of course they are fake. They are not reel. THat is pretty important too and that will never go away. But I feel ai-generated porn as a fetish is already there and more and more people will explore this. AI Porn will change our societies in ways we can hardly imagine. Most people might want porn with real humans, but some will like artifical stuff more. Just imagine you could fill your favourite "model" with an AI "soul", that learns individually what you teach it. Millions will fall in love with that. And some people will like the idea to offer themselves to that. And regarding celebrities... I can hardly imagine that they can protect themselves from that. They will try. They will fail. Then they will learn to accept it. But maybe I am wrong. Let's talk about this again in ten years

Im an older guy, but I guess even I will live to see at least a part of that future. Let's see if that will be utopian or dystopian. I guess both.

I doubt it, government and companies are cracking down on deepfake porn, if it will be possible to make porn at home (talking about realistic porn, but not celebs), then porn industry with lobby against it, you will never ever be able to do celebs (big AI models needed to do video require a lot of compute power, no company ever will invest as much money to train an NSFW equivalent of Sora and make it free and open source, it just won't happen ever unless these video AI models become very light to train but doesn't seem like that's will be the case, the trend for new models is that they are getting a lot more complex and larger and with size comes how taxing they are on hardware and how much of said hardware you need to train them in terms of compute power and memory). Even now generating exactly what you want with Stable Diffusion is very hard, if it was a matter of writing prompts or feeding it an image and telling it "animate it how I want it" then we wouldn't had need so many of those other tools we need to make something even close to what we want and 9/10 times you generate something you get garbage, be it with 1.5, SDXL, Cascade or 3.0, all of these models still have issue generating complex images, there is no doubt thing will continue to improve, but when it started you had to be a very technical, then it got easier, but as we kept trying to improve it, it again became very technical, you pretty much can't make a good image using prompt alone and a base model provided by SD which also might be dead soon as the company is in trouble (they are loosing lots of money, not making much, failing to secure investment and recently several important/key employees have quit the company, they are facing issues with copyrights in their training data, SD might soon be dead) and competition is quite ahead (talking mostly Open AI as they are the biggest player right now).

If it ever comes to a point where one will be able to generate perfect porn video using AI, this will not be a good time to live in as it will mean that by this point everyone in video industry will be out of jobs - directors, videographers, actors, composers, screen writers, and if AI will be able to do perfect videos, it will also be doing perfect images (graphic designers, UI/UX designers), create perfect code (software engineers/progammers), accountants... factor workers... everyone.

The moment AI does perfect videos with no issues and is completely uncensored and capable of everything is moment we will reach the point of no return, we will have created a true AI and humanity will be doomed, no one will have time to make porn, we'll be fighting each other to not starve... or fighting AI... And I know this must sound like I'm just writing some sci-fi skynet inspired crap, but it's the truth, the moment AI can perfectly replace jobs of many talented artists, or in this case the job of a pornstar, a porn director, porn writer, porn video editor, it will replace whole industry, a perfect AI video means no one will care it's AI made, it will be perfect, indistinguishable from real stuff, so why bother paying for real stuff.

Truth is I doubt this will ever come to be, we will never make perfect AI, so there will never be perfect way to make AI porn, and if it's not gonna be perfect, it will either require a lot of human touch to make it good - which means average non technical person won't be able to do it, or it will continue to be rubbish, which means no one will care, and haters will continue to hate it.

Try going to twitter and call yourself an "AI artists" and watch the hate coming your way, some people react to "AI art" the same way Trump supporters react to seeing a vaccine, pride flag or Joe Biden.